Commons:Deletion requests/2024/05/07
May 7
[edit]http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Morocco_hexagram.svg?uselang=fr 41.137.57.101 14:13, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
Speedy kept: Invalid and vandalical Deletion request. File in use. --Amitie 10g (talk) 14:17, 22 November 2014 (UTC) (Non-admin closure)
is not the flag for morocco is a fake 105.154.125.8 15:36, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
- Keep -- It's not the current official flag of Morocco, but it was what was shown in the 1924 Petite Larousse, and similar to certain historical Moroccan flags (e.g http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/ma-rif.html ). There's no problem if it's clearly labeled as what it is... AnonMoos (talk) 15:53, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
- Keep IPs should not make nominations. Fry1989 eh? 18:18, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
- Keep, per AnonMoos. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 20:25, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
Kept per cmts. Alan (talk) 02:32, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
This is an unreliable source, the Hexagram was never an official Moroccan flag, it was always a plain red flag. This is misleading. محمد٢ (talk) 22:01, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- In English wiki article Flag of Morroco there are 3 sources: [1][2][3]. Tal (רונאלדיניו המלך, talk) 11:22, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
- ↑ (in English) (5 January 2016) Making Morocco: Colonial Intervention and the Politics of Identity, Cornell University Press, p. 81 ISBN: 978-1-5017-0425-3.
- ↑ (in English) (1967) The Land and People of Morocco, Black, p. 20 ISBN: 978-0-02-762430-4. "The latter, a six-pointed star of two interlaced triangles, is found in magic all over the world, and is actually used as the centre of the Moroccan national flag. There are many stories about the magic of Solomon recorded in the Koran."
- ↑ (in English) (1980) Morocco, Namara Publications, p. 91 ISBN: 978-0-7043-2224-0. "and the six-pointed star, the Seal of Solomon, a symbol used in ceremonial rites throughout the world and indeed the symbol of the Kingdom of Morocco itself, woven in green on a red background in the country's flag."
- @רונאלדיניו המלך: Yes, the eight pointed flag was used before the Alaouite dynasty, however six pointed stars were not used. محمد٢ (talk) 11:43, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
- Keep, obviously. This is a rendition of an incorrect flag design, widely reported from an important source. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 14:33, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- @محمد٢: There are two earlier deletion requests of this file, both closed to keep it. Why did you think it was a good idea to insist, ignoring the presented arguments? -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 14:36, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Tuvalkin: It is incorrect so it shouldn't be on here, Wikipedia is for providing correct information, not false information. محمد٢ (talk) 15:18, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- @محمد٢: Guy, what about providing correct(ing) information about incorrect/false information that was provided elsewhere/when? That’s what incorrect images such as this one are useful for. You’re welcome to {{Withdraw}} your nomination, or you can let it stand and further waste other people’s time with this. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 10:28, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
- This deletion nomination is actually invalid until and unless محمد٢ leaves a valid deletion nomination on my user talk page (currently he has only left incomprehensible broken templates). AnonMoos (talk) 21:39, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
- STRONGLY OPPOSE deletion until and unless محمد٢ has the simple common courtesy to leaves a valid deletion nomination on my user talk page. AnonMoos (talk) 22:06, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
- Keep - Il existe déjà 4 (quatre) sources - dont une d'autorité - pour ce drapeau et aucune qui vienne le contredire avec au moins un seul argument valable. Rien. Alors, pourquoi vouloir anachroniquement supprimer cette image parce que le symbole représenté égratignerait la vue de certaines personnes au motif qu'il représenterait Israël ou le judaïsme aujourd'hui - mais pas hier ? C'est un fait, c'est du passé mais il a existé. - --Mylenos (talk) 11:30, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Voici une nouvelle source/preuve qu'un contributeur vient d'apporter. Que faudrait-il de plus ? --Mylenos (talk) 13:54, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Kept: No reason for deletion of this image. According to the Deletion policy a supposedly incorrect, original researched or not-neutral image is not a reason for deletion. This aspect should be addressed on the projects. The image is currently in use on the projects, so it has to be maintained. --Ellywa (talk) 19:44, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
It's not the real flag of morocco. delete it and search for the real flag MedeV9 (talk) 09:18, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy keep per previous DR's. I also added a link to the actual flag in the file description, so that people like MedeV9 don't get confused in the first place. --Enyavar (talk) 15:28, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'm getting rather tired of people who are perturbed on discovering that Muslims have made use of six-pointed stars, and then blame others or try to rewrite history. There's a whole gallery at en:Hexagram#Islam. For my reasons to keep, see previous comments above. AnonMoos (talk) 23:22, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
Screenshot of a YouTube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ_7FuJfrC4 CoffeeEngineer (talk) 09:43, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
File:Juan Liwag.jpg TheJediMaster327 (talk) 10:48, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Fake svg of File:スマイルピースのベルマーク.png, seems useless and redundant Nutshinou Talk! 11:34, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
svg vector version available: File:DFStrab_G5_Hannover.svg Mkkagain (talk) 12:21, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
svg version available: File:DFStrab_F1.svg Mkkagain (talk) 12:23, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
svg version available: File:DFStrab_F5.svg Mkkagain (talk) 12:24, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
svg version available: File:DFStrab_F3.svg Mkkagain (talk) 12:25, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
svg version available: File:DFStrab_F2.svg Mkkagain (talk) 12:25, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
svg version available: File:DFStrab_F4.svg Mkkagain (talk) 12:26, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
svg version available: File:DFStrab_F0.svg Mkkagain (talk) 12:26, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
svg version available: File:DFStrab_A1.svg Mkkagain (talk) 12:26, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Possible copyvio: logo of a school CoffeeEngineer (talk) 13:58, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Unused logo of non-notable organization, out of scope. And above COM:TOO. P 1 9 9 ✉ 14:11, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
This cover is public domain in the UK, but not the US because which is not public domain per COM:URAA. Ferret-o-meter (talk) 09:14, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Below COM:TOO US. --Rosenzweig τ 09:29, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
Kept: per Rosenzweig. --The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 01:36, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
Cover still under copyright in the US, the use of {{Not-PD-US-URAA}} aren't eligible for upload after 1 March 2012. 49.150.12.134 14:24, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep As before: Below COM:TOO US. Should also be below COM:TOO UK. --Rosenzweig τ 07:56, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
Menotti
[edit]- File:Abrazo menotti y pele.jpg
- File:Cesar menotti smoking.jpg
- File:Duchini maradona menotti.jpg
- File:Menotti abrazo olguin.jpg
- File:Menotti banco suplentes.jpg
- File:Menotti entrevista mexico.jpg
- File:Menotti fillol reunidos.jpg
- File:Menotti serrat.jpg
- File:Menotti world cup.jpg
- File:Menotti y pele 1979.jpg
- File:Menotti y valencia.jpg
- File:Passarella maradona menotti.jpg
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- File:El grafico 3054 menotti alonso.jpg
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- File:Elgrafico como ganamos copa mundo.jpg
- File:Lorenzo y Menotti - El Gráfico 3010.jpg
- File:Menotti y Fillol -Selección argentina- - El Gráfico 3027.jpg
Several images of César Luis Menotti were not free in Argentina on the URAA date and may not be hosted on Commons --Cambalachero (talk) 15:29, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Per Commons:Hirtle chart, El Gráfico files published until February 28, 1989 are allowed on Commons, as it is detailed on Category:El Gráfico, 1989 Fma12 (talk) 22:48, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- All issues of El Grafico had a page like this one (random 1981 issue). The copyright notice is the one at the bottom to the left. Cambalachero (talk) 17:07, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment But the copyright notice is not the point of this discussion. I would like user @IagoQnsi: (who wrote the statement I cited above) leave his feedback on this DR, based on his experience with those URAA issues. Fma12 (talk) 19:12, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Cambalachero: It's hard to make out in that image, but I don't see a copyright notice. The requirements for what makes a valid copyright notice became a lot more lenient after 1978, but it does still have to include the © symbol or some form of the word "copyright". IagoQnsi (talk) 23:14, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment But the copyright notice is not the point of this discussion. I would like user @IagoQnsi: (who wrote the statement I cited above) leave his feedback on this DR, based on his experience with those URAA issues. Fma12 (talk) 19:12, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- All issues of El Grafico had a page like this one (random 1981 issue). The copyright notice is the one at the bottom to the left. Cambalachero (talk) 17:07, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
File:Marie-Adélaïde Baubry-Vaillant - Portrait of Prince Vinh Thuy in 1926 - T199HK0473 SS-REF2 1.jpg
[edit]It's not possible that Marie-Adélaïde Baubry-Vaillant made this work, since she died in 1899 [1]. Le Petit Chat (talk) 16:09, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yes that’s true! So the underlying reference is incorrect. One of two things must be true: the painter is not the creator of this pastel, or the sitter was not the person claimed to be photographed in 1926. If the first is true, the sitter statement must be clarified with the issue and the file doesn’t need to be deleted, because it’s still of value as a PD example of the artist’s work. If the second is true, then the work is by an unknown pastellist of the 1920s who may easily be in the public domain by now. Since Sotheby’s is the source, I am inclined to think the artist is indeed correct, but that’s just my opinion. Feel free to delete it if you feel strongly about it, because I don’t. Jane023 (talk) 02:40, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- So weird, I think it's most definitely a portrait of Prince Vinh Thuy. Then it should be the second case, by an unnamed painter from the 1920s. In my opinion it should not be deleted now. 源義信 (talk) 07:18, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- That's so interesting! Thanks for looking into it. It would be nice to have a photo of Prince Vinh Thuy or any other pastel by this artist for his circle. The more you think about this issue, the more questions arise about the way it was made. Having it around does help. I believe more eyes will help solve the question over time. It's possible that the artist had a student or other follower who imitated her style. Jane023 (talk) 10:32, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- So weird, I think it's most definitely a portrait of Prince Vinh Thuy. Then it should be the second case, by an unnamed painter from the 1920s. In my opinion it should not be deleted now. 源義信 (talk) 07:18, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
Complex logos can be in Commons only with VRT-permission. It seems that the logo is not enough old. Taivo (talk) 17:26, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:40, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Likely below COM:TOO US. Common symbols are typically below the US threshold. This is a fairly simple cross in a shield. Compare examples there like fleur de lis, yin yang symbol, etc. IronGargoyle (talk) 12:10, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yin and yang symbol is even geometrical figure, it is much more simple. In my opinion fleur de lis is in public domain not because it is simple but because it is centuries old and in PD due to age. Taivo (talk) 20:09, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- A cross and a shield aren't centuries old too? That's a rhetorical question by the way. The Dominican Cross (the particular style of cross used here) has been used by the order for about 800 years. IronGargoyle (talk) 23:04, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Please give a link to show that, and I withdraw the request. Taivo (talk) 09:19, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- I might have overestimated with 800 years (that is how long the Dominicans have been around). The first clearly documented use is from the 1500s, but this article suggests that it probably predates this within the Spanish branch of the Dominicans. The cross flory and gyron were apparently important heraldry symbols in Spain at the time. It became a universal symbol of the Dominicans in the 1800s: https://www.dominicanajournal.org/wp-content/files/old-journal-archive/vol14/no1/dominicanav14n1coatarmstheorderpreachers.pdf IronGargoyle (talk) 20:30, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Please give a link to show that, and I withdraw the request. Taivo (talk) 09:19, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- A cross and a shield aren't centuries old too? That's a rhetorical question by the way. The Dominican Cross (the particular style of cross used here) has been used by the order for about 800 years. IronGargoyle (talk) 23:04, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yin and yang symbol is even geometrical figure, it is much more simple. In my opinion fleur de lis is in public domain not because it is simple but because it is centuries old and in PD due to age. Taivo (talk) 20:09, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
Context-less, source-less logo, probably (as stated in the description) own work. Therefore this is uneducational. Janhrach (talk) 17:26, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Info: as for the page on mlwiki that uses this file, it was added to it by the author of this file with the claim it is "official". Either this logo is official and therefore a copyright violation (which is doubtful, since the image contains the name of its author) or it is fictitious. In both cases, it should be deleted. Janhrach (talk) 08:08, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
This file is not only a ‘fake’ SVG which is not actually scalable, it does not even appear to depict the typeface it claims to, because Espy Sans is a bitmap pixel font but the graphic clearly shows a raster rendering of a vector font file Daphne Preston-Kendal (talk) 18:11, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
SVG version existing ; orphan Bruce The Deus (talk) 18:21, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Artist died 1936, so this will have a US copyright until at least 1/1/2027 . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 19:13, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- The painting is part of the collection of a public Swedish museum and the assumption is therefore not valid. When using this file, photographer and museum (Norrköpings konstmuseum) will however need to be mantioned. 2001:1BA8:1600:FE00:C1AA:8B6A:7DAD:4E6B 23:30, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep The painting was uploaded before 2012 so the URAA template is completely valid and is public domain in Sweden. DogeGamer2015MZT (talk) 02:58, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
وضعت صورة خاطئة Ilyasop (talk) 20:17, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Copyviol from https://arcivescovo.diocesiudine.it/stemma-dellarcivescovo-riccardo-lamba/ . Antonio1952 (talk) 20:52, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Recorte pescadería 200.39.139.21 21:42, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Y? Cv, G10. No escuchan a los IP? 200.39.139.21 14:49, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Low quality image of common subject Dronebogus (talk) 21:43, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Ripped from the files of the game, Copyvio under US anti-piracy laws. (and a screenshot of unfree software) All the best -- Chuck Talk 21:44, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- This is a logo text logo simple shape not too detailed. LlV2 (talk) 22:45, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- That is moot, this is a component in a copyrighted work (in this case, the video game you ripped it from). And there is no evidence the game was released under a compatible license.
- All the best -- Chuck Talk 23:40, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
File:Foto Alejandro en el Bongó, con su Pápa bailando, cantando y Manolin Rincón en el Acordeon.jpg
[edit]1963, Achim ya era bibliotecario. Trabajo propio? 200.39.139.21 21:44, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Unremarkable COM:NUDE image Dronebogus (talk) 21:45, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Un periódico 200.39.139.21 21:46, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
duplicate Nonosh666 (talk) 11:02, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
duplicate Nonosh666 (talk) 11:03, 30 April 2024 (UTC)