Commons:Deletion requests/2024/05/10
May 10
[edit]Probably not PD Einsamer Schütze (talk) 00:17, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Faithful reproduction of obviously PD 2-dimensional art, so {{PD-art}}. IronGargoyle (talk) 03:37, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- Reliefs do not count as 2-dimensional, see https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:When_to_use_the_PD-Art_tag#Photograph_of_an_old_coin_found_on_the_Internet Einsamer Schütze (talk) 10:54, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- You have to consider that guidance in the context of the width-to-relief ratio. Many paintings, for example, are not truly flat. They have textural brushstrokes which lead to a painting surface which is not a smooth surface. Coins have a relatively small width, and so their relief can lead to creative choices when photographing in a necessarily close-up manner. A very wide chapel wall has a relief ratio that makes the changes in depth much less significant than a coin. IronGargoyle (talk) 16:49, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
Probably not PD Einsamer Schütze (talk) 00:17, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Faithful reproduction of obviously PD 2-dimensional art, so {{PD-art}}. Right edge can be cropped if need be. IronGargoyle (talk) 03:39, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- Reliefs do not count as 2-dimensional, see https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:When_to_use_the_PD-Art_tag#Photograph_of_an_old_coin_found_on_the_Internet Einsamer Schütze (talk) 10:54, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
Probably not PD Einsamer Schütze (talk) 00:19, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Faithful reproduction of obviously PD 2-dimensional art, so {{PD-art}}. IronGargoyle (talk) 03:40, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- Reliefs do not count as 2-dimensional, see https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:When_to_use_the_PD-Art_tag#Photograph_of_an_old_coin_found_on_the_Internet Einsamer Schütze (talk) 10:54, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
Probably not PD Einsamer Schütze (talk) 00:19, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Faithful reproduction of obviously PD 2-dimensional art, so {{PD-art}}. IronGargoyle (talk) 03:41, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- Reliefs do not count as 2-dimensional, see https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:When_to_use_the_PD-Art_tag#Photograph_of_an_old_coin_found_on_the_Internet Einsamer Schütze (talk) 10:54, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
Probably not PD Einsamer Schütze (talk) 00:19, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep if cropped to focus on the center panel. Faithful reproduction of obviously PD 2-dimensional art, so {{PD-art}}. IronGargoyle (talk) 03:47, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- Reliefs do not count as 2-dimensional, see https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:When_to_use_the_PD-Art_tag#Photograph_of_an_old_coin_found_on_the_Internet Einsamer Schütze (talk) 10:55, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
Not PD yet, creator Hermann Junker (1877-1962) died less than 70 years ago Einsamer Schütze (talk) 00:20, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Faithful reproduction of obviously PD 2-dimensional art, so {{PD-art}}. IronGargoyle (talk) 03:45, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- Reliefs do not count as 2-dimensional, see https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:When_to_use_the_PD-Art_tag#Photograph_of_an_old_coin_found_on_the_Internet Einsamer Schütze (talk) 10:55, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
Copyrighted material Einsamer Schütze (talk) 01:02, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
File:SZ 深圳 Shenzhen 龍崗 Longgang 吉華路 Jihua Road 坂田北站 Bantian North Station drink vending machine May 2024 R12S.jpg
[edit]COM:PACKAGING, also Copyrighted Vita Smiley World. see: Commons:Deletion requests/File:维他柠檬茶Smiley World瓶装.jpg メイド理世 (talk) 02:18, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
This file has been superseded by c:File:KY-16-senate-districts accurate vs.svg, which contains corrected information. Mad Mismagius (talk) 02:32, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Files in Category:Khoriphaba
[edit]These are historically inaccurate AI generated images of the mythological god Khoriphaba. So the files should be deleted as OOS due to serving no educational purpose what-so-ever.
- File:Divine Wrestling between Gods — Khoiriphaba vs Loiyalakpa — Classical Meitei mythology & religion (Sanamahism AKA Lainingthouism) of ancient Kangleipak civilization.jpg
- File:Grappling between Gods — Khoiriphaba vs Loiyalakpa — Classical Meitei mythology & religion (Sanamahism AKA Lainingthouism) of ancient Kangleipak civilisation.jpg
- File:Grappling between Gods — Khoiriphaba vs Loiyalakpa — Classical Meitei mythology & religion (Sanamahism AKA Lainingthouism) of ancient Kangleipak civilization.jpg
- File:Khoiriphaba (Khoriphaba) — Son of King Salailen (Soraren) & Queen Konthoujam Tampha of Heavenly Kingdom — Crying for his separation from mother — Gods gifted him golden horse, peacock, tortoise, etc. to pacify his cry but in vain.jpg
- File:Khoiriphaba vs Loiyalakpa — Gods of wrestling — Classical Meitei mythology & religion (Sanamahism AKA Lainingthouism) of ancient Kangleipak civilisation.jpg
- File:Khoiriphaba vs Loiyalakpa — Gods of wrestling — Classical Meitei mythology & religion (Sanamahism AKA Lainingthouism) of ancient Kangleipak civilization.jpg
- File:Lai Khoiriphaba (Khoriphaba), blindfolded & allowed by God Koupalu, to choose a bride of His choice using His divine mallet (polo stick) — Lai Nupi Thiba — Classical Meitei mythology & religion (Sanamahism) of ancient Kangleipak.jpg
- File:Lai Khoiriphaba (Khoriphaba), blindfolded & allowed by God Koupalu, to choose a bride of His choice using His divine polostick (mallet) — Lai Nupi Thiba — Classical Meitei mythology & religion (Sanamahism) of ancient Kangleipak.jpg
- File:Lainingthou Khoiriphaba (Khoriphaba), blindfolded & allowed by Koupalu, to choose a bride of His choice using His divine polostick (mallet) — Lai Nupi Thiba — Classical Meitei mythology & religion (Sanamahism) of ancient Kangleipak.jpg
- File:Two wrestler gods — Khoiliphapa (AKA Kholiphapa or Khoiriphaba or Khoriphaba) & Loiyalakpa (AKA Loyalakpa or Loiyarakpa or Loyarakpa) — Classical Meitei mythology & religion (Sanamahism AKA Lainingthouism) of Kangleipak civilization.jpg
- File:Wrestling between Gods — Khoiriphaba vs Loiyalakpa — Classical Meitei mythology & religion (Sanamahism AKA Lainingthouism) of ancient Kangleipak civilisation.jpg
- File:Wrestling between Gods — Khoiriphaba vs Loiyalakpa — Classical Meitei mythology & religion (Sanamahism AKA Lainingthouism) of ancient Kangleipak civilization.jpg
Adamant1 (talk) 05:03, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete implausible interpretations of ancient mythology Dronebogus (talk) 11:13, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep The artworks were created using numerous explanations in the prompts, for which considerable amount of research in the topic has been done. Merely saying historically inaccurate in a deletionist perspective without understanding anything about the topic, just because it's AI, is really shocking. Regarding scope too, the files are used in numerous projects. Haoreima (talk) 19:18, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Haoreima: The images should at least be slightly plausible and realistic if your going to claim this is all about me an ignorant, AI hating deletionist or whatever. The "numerous explanations" aside, you'd have to at least agree that Khoriphaba clearly wasn't a white Aryan who looks like a modern anime character like he's being portrayed in some of these images. --Adamant1 (talk) 19:25, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
Files in Category:Koupalu
[edit]These are historically inaccurate AI generated images of the mythological god Koupalu. So the files should be deleted as OOS due to serving no educational purpose what-so-ever.
- File:Birth, Discovery & Adoption of Thoudu Nungthen Leima by God Koupalu & Goddess Kounu — Lady laid on a riverbed stone slab — Classical Meitei mythology & religion (Sanamahism AKA Lainingthouism) of early Kangleipak civilisation.jpg
- File:Birth, Discovery & Adoption of Thoudu Nungthen Leima by God Koupalu & Goddess Kounu — Lady laid on a riverbed stone slab — Classical Meitei mythology & religion (Sanamahism AKA Lainingthouism) of early Kangleipak civilization.jpg
- File:Koupalu (AKA Koubaru or Koubru) — Guardian of the Northwest — Personification of Mount Koubru — Receiver of puppies as offerings — Classical Meitei mythology & religion (Sanamahism AKA Lainingthouism) of Kangleipak civilisation.jpg
- File:Koupalu (AKA Koubaru or Koubru) — Guardian of the Northwest — Personification of Mount Koubru — Receiver of puppies as offerings — Classical Meitei mythology & religion (Sanamahism AKA Lainingthouism) of Kangleipak civilization.jpg
Adamant1 (talk) 05:06, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep The artworks were created using numerous explanations in the prompts, for which considerable amount of research in the topic has been done. Merely saying historically inaccurate in a deletionist perspective without understanding anything about the topic, just because it's AI, is really shocking. Regarding scope too, the files are used in numerous projects. Haoreima (talk) 19:16, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Numerous explanations aside, if we're going to host AI generated images of mythological gods they should at least be plausible and Koubru clearly wasn't an Aryan white guy who looked like a modern western cartoon character. It's an insult to Asian folklore to act like these images are at all representative of how Koubru probably looked in traditional depictions of him. --Adamant1 (talk) 19:40, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Please understand what is meant by Aryan look and white people's look first of all. By the way, I am not here for a debate or an argument. I have done considerable research in the very topic about their descriptions reading sacred scriptures. You are free to express your comments but in a calm way. Btw, my comment isn't the final. Haoreima (talk) 19:45, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'm actually pretty calm about this. So lets make this about me or your perceptions of my emotions. The fact is that Koubru didn't look like a white Aryan cartoon character. Just because you've done considerable research doesn't mean it will be or is reflected in the AI generated images of him. Although if you have evidence of him looking like that in traditional texts be my guest and present it. I'm more then willing to retract this if the images are in fact historically accurate representations. --Adamant1 (talk) 19:59, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Great! I can provide you the books, if you are interested. However, those are written in Indian languages, not in English. Haoreima (talk) 20:14, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- I was hopping more for actual images of him from traditional texts. Basing it purely on textual descriptions doesn't work because we don't generally host fantasy amateur artwork. I'd probably fine with this types of images if they were reflective of actual artwork from reliable Tibetan sources though. --Adamant1 (talk) 20:19, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Great! I can provide you the books, if you are interested. However, those are written in Indian languages, not in English. Haoreima (talk) 20:14, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'm actually pretty calm about this. So lets make this about me or your perceptions of my emotions. The fact is that Koubru didn't look like a white Aryan cartoon character. Just because you've done considerable research doesn't mean it will be or is reflected in the AI generated images of him. Although if you have evidence of him looking like that in traditional texts be my guest and present it. I'm more then willing to retract this if the images are in fact historically accurate representations. --Adamant1 (talk) 19:59, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Please understand what is meant by Aryan look and white people's look first of all. By the way, I am not here for a debate or an argument. I have done considerable research in the very topic about their descriptions reading sacred scriptures. You are free to express your comments but in a calm way. Btw, my comment isn't the final. Haoreima (talk) 19:45, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Numerous explanations aside, if we're going to host AI generated images of mythological gods they should at least be plausible and Koubru clearly wasn't an Aryan white guy who looked like a modern western cartoon character. It's an insult to Asian folklore to act like these images are at all representative of how Koubru probably looked in traditional depictions of him. --Adamant1 (talk) 19:40, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
This image is probably copyrighted due to being taken from Google. So it should be deleted as COPYVIO unless someone can provide evidence to the contrary. Adamant1 (talk) 06:18, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Please see "How to use and cite Trends data" at Google Trends support. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 07:15, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep data and facts, not copyrightable. Dronebogus (talk) 07:42, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the interface of their website and styling of data can both be copyrighted. Even if said data is ultimately just some factual numbers. --Adamant1 (talk) 08:50, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Interface is clearly beneath US TOO. Dronebogus (talk) 10:33, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Dronebogus: I don't necessarily disagree and I probably wouldn't have nominated the image for deletion if it were just of the interface. I think it's above US TOO taken as a whole though and that's usually how it works with images of software. You can't just say a screenshot of a document opened in Microsoft Word is below US TOO because the X in the top corner is to simple to be copyrighted. --Adamant1 (talk) 22:36, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- I don’t see a single thing here that passes TOO since it’s all mundane and purely utilitarian. I assume this was auto-generated so even if there’s somehow a “sweat of the brow” clause for producing charts and data visualizations there is no human author to credit. Dronebogus (talk) 08:57, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Dronebogus: I don't necessarily disagree and I probably wouldn't have nominated the image for deletion if it were just of the interface. I think it's above US TOO taken as a whole though and that's usually how it works with images of software. You can't just say a screenshot of a document opened in Microsoft Word is below US TOO because the X in the top corner is to simple to be copyrighted. --Adamant1 (talk) 22:36, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Interface is clearly beneath US TOO. Dronebogus (talk) 10:33, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the interface of their website and styling of data can both be copyrighted. Even if said data is ultimately just some factual numbers. --Adamant1 (talk) 08:50, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, as per Dronebogus. RodRabelo7 (talk) 21:29, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
File:Dr. Daniela Sommer, SPD Fraktion im Hessischen Landtag © Christof Mattes CC BY-SA 4.0.jpg
[edit]Das Foto wurde fälschlicherweise als freigegeben eingestuft. Die abgebildete Person bittet um eine Rücknahme der Veröffentlichung. Daraufhin wurde das Foto wurde von der Ursprungswebsite www.spd-fraktion-hessen.de gelöscht. SPD-Fraktion im Hessischen Landtag (talk) 06:52, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
From https://m.famousfix.com/list/indian-psychiatrists with no indication that the image is free to use, therefore for us defaults to copyvio. Also uploader has given no information as to authorship, other than "I made this myself". So if not copyvio, it's an out of scope personal vanity shot of no use to the project. Acabashi (talk) 08:18, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Shot is useful for Wikipedia as it has been used in an article on English Wikipedia “Jaswant Singh Neki”. I have just imported file on commons from English Wikipedia which you rightly say that loader has mentioned made myself. It could also be possible that famousfix itself has used this photo and not the original copyright holder. No doubt subject is a noted psychiatrist doctor and Sikh scholar and material is useful should not be deleted. Guglani (talk) 08:36, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Not in use - vector version available HLFan (talk) 08:19, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Not in use - vector version available HLFan (talk) 08:20, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Not in use - vector version available HLFan (talk) 08:20, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Not in use - vector version available HLFan (talk) 08:21, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Image is too out of focus to be of use for Commons Leoboudv (talk) 09:20, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- The original on Flickr is actually a video, should that be imported instead or would it still be too low quality? Somegreenguy (talk) 23:24, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: I suppose it would be better to import this as a video instead. Somegreenguy Best, --Leoboudv (talk) 22:55, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Files in Category:Superstraight
[edit]All of these images are for a fictional flag having to do with a fake, transphobic sexual orientation that never went anywhere outside of a single online message board. There's no reason we need to host images of fictional flags for every random meme or online message board posting out there. In fact we don't as the upwards of three hundred deletion requests for fictional flags that were deleted in Category:Fictitious symbol related deletion requests/deleted shows. The clear consensus is against hosting these types of images on Commons. So they should be deleted as OOS since they clearly serve absolutely no educational value what-so-ever.
- File:Alternative Super Straight Flagge.png
- File:Super Straight Flag.png
- File:Super Straight Flagge.png
- File:Superstraight Flag (Flagicon).png
- File:Superstraight Flag Flagicon.jpg
- File:Superstraight Flag.png
- File:SuperStraightFlag.jpg
- File:SuperStraightFlag.png
- File:SuperStraightFlag.svg
Adamant1 (talk) 09:27, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep to start with, at least one is COM:INUSE. Next, if by “a single message board” you mean /pol/, a very notable board on the very notable website 4chan, then that is enough to both make it marginally notable and notable enough for commons’ extremely low standards. Finally, there is a difference between a made-up thing that originated outside WM and a thing made up one day. This is the former. Dronebogus (talk) 10:29, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- The only in use file I saw was being used in a 2 old draft article that clearly isn't going to be put in mainspace anytime soon, if ever. So I don't think the usage is a valid reason to keep the image. As far as the where this orginated from, your correct that 4chan is notable. That obviously doesn't mean every single random thing that gets posted there is notable, eductional, or otherwise worth hosting on Commons though. Files don't get a free pass from Commons:Project scope just because someone might have posted them to 4chan once. --Adamant1 (talk) 10:37, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- File:Super Straight Flag.svg is in extensive use (and if you game the system by going to every single wiki it’s on and removing it you will be reported). You should actually check these things before indiscriminately nominating everything in a category. And I don’t get why you seem to think this is just some random thing that never received any media attention— it’s discussed on the w:/pol/ article of enwiki— I quote, “ Colors associated with ‘super straight’, often used in the form of flags, were black and orange.” (Emphasis mine) It’s also discussed extensively at w:Straight flag, where one of these files is in use. Dronebogus (talk) 10:46, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, I must have missed checking that one. I don't plan on removing it from anywhere and I'd appreciate it if you laid off the needlessly confrontational, accusatory tone about this. Its really not helpful. I explained why I don't think its a thing in the other DR. Plenty of random, benial facts are mentioned in Wikimedia articles. That doesn't make them "things" though, whatever that means. Do you have any evidence of these flags actually beinf IRL or refered to outside of the transphobic angle? If not then at least IMO these images clearly aren't worth keeping. Although their eductional usefulness would still be questionable regardless. But actual usage of the flags IRL would at least be better then your claim that they should be kept simply "because 4chan." --Adamant1 (talk) 11:01, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- You are living in some kind of alternate universe where a pride flag must be used in real life by some kind of legitimate sexual or gender minority to be in-scope. I have literally presented extensive evidence that these are non-trivially COM:INUSE and you just keep repeating the same arguments over and over when they have nothing to do with what I just said. Dronebogus (talk) 11:06, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Are you really going to argue this is at all comparable to the pride flag? Come on. You know they aren't at all comparable to each other. Regardless, just because one image is in use doesn't automatically mean the other 9 images I nominated for deletion should be kept. You clearly have no actual arguement for keeping the imaged outside of making bad faithed, personal accusations though. I hear what your saying perfectly fine. I just think your wrong. Get over it and spare me the defense bad attitude about this. There's really no need for it. --Adamant1 (talk) 11:18, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- “If superstraight isn’t a pride flag then you must delete” isn’t a coherent argument. I really don’t care what happens to the unused ones as long as the ones that are actually being legitimately used are kept. That’s literally all I’m vouching for here. Dronebogus (talk) 11:23, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Good thing none of the reasons I said the images should be deleted have anything to do with the pride flag then. Your the one who brought it up to begin with. The only noncoherent argument here is you bringing up the pride flag and then treating me like it has anything to do with why I think the images should be deleted. "the Chewbacca defense is a legal strategy in which a criminal defense lawyer tries to confuse the jury rather than refute the case of the prosecutor. It is an intentional distraction or obfuscation." That's literally all you've been doing. I guess there's nothing more to say about it if you don't care about the unused files being deleted though. Although I think the one that's in use should be deleted to, but I'm more then willing to leave it up to whomever closes this. Maybe drop it on your end going forward in the meantime. --Adamant1 (talk) 11:31, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- I’m still completely baffled about why you think your reasons to delete make any sense whatsoever, but I’m more baffled by your resistance to acknowledging COM:INUSE applies to File:Super Straight Flag.svg and multiple others. Dronebogus (talk) 11:37, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Since your apparently incapable of dropping this for some reason how exaxtly is me saying I just missed that the one file was being used in a Wikipedia article not an acknowlegement of COM:INUSE? With the other file, I could be wrong but I thought COM:INUSE didn't apply in cases were the image is being used on a draft article that has essentially no chance of ever being put into mainspace. The standard here isn't just "use" after all. There's also "realistic utility" and that's kind of negated by it being used in a draft article that's been stalled out for multiple years. --Adamant1 (talk) 11:45, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- If you want to convince me that you actually understand what INUSE is, just remove File:Super Straight Flag.svg, please. Dronebogus (talk) 11:49, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'll remove it if you promise not to come in so hot about things next time ;) --Adamant1 (talk) 12:09, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- If you want to convince me that you actually understand what INUSE is, just remove File:Super Straight Flag.svg, please. Dronebogus (talk) 11:49, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Since your apparently incapable of dropping this for some reason how exaxtly is me saying I just missed that the one file was being used in a Wikipedia article not an acknowlegement of COM:INUSE? With the other file, I could be wrong but I thought COM:INUSE didn't apply in cases were the image is being used on a draft article that has essentially no chance of ever being put into mainspace. The standard here isn't just "use" after all. There's also "realistic utility" and that's kind of negated by it being used in a draft article that's been stalled out for multiple years. --Adamant1 (talk) 11:45, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- I’m still completely baffled about why you think your reasons to delete make any sense whatsoever, but I’m more baffled by your resistance to acknowledging COM:INUSE applies to File:Super Straight Flag.svg and multiple others. Dronebogus (talk) 11:37, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Good thing none of the reasons I said the images should be deleted have anything to do with the pride flag then. Your the one who brought it up to begin with. The only noncoherent argument here is you bringing up the pride flag and then treating me like it has anything to do with why I think the images should be deleted. "the Chewbacca defense is a legal strategy in which a criminal defense lawyer tries to confuse the jury rather than refute the case of the prosecutor. It is an intentional distraction or obfuscation." That's literally all you've been doing. I guess there's nothing more to say about it if you don't care about the unused files being deleted though. Although I think the one that's in use should be deleted to, but I'm more then willing to leave it up to whomever closes this. Maybe drop it on your end going forward in the meantime. --Adamant1 (talk) 11:31, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- “If superstraight isn’t a pride flag then you must delete” isn’t a coherent argument. I really don’t care what happens to the unused ones as long as the ones that are actually being legitimately used are kept. That’s literally all I’m vouching for here. Dronebogus (talk) 11:23, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Are you really going to argue this is at all comparable to the pride flag? Come on. You know they aren't at all comparable to each other. Regardless, just because one image is in use doesn't automatically mean the other 9 images I nominated for deletion should be kept. You clearly have no actual arguement for keeping the imaged outside of making bad faithed, personal accusations though. I hear what your saying perfectly fine. I just think your wrong. Get over it and spare me the defense bad attitude about this. There's really no need for it. --Adamant1 (talk) 11:18, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- You are living in some kind of alternate universe where a pride flag must be used in real life by some kind of legitimate sexual or gender minority to be in-scope. I have literally presented extensive evidence that these are non-trivially COM:INUSE and you just keep repeating the same arguments over and over when they have nothing to do with what I just said. Dronebogus (talk) 11:06, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, I must have missed checking that one. I don't plan on removing it from anywhere and I'd appreciate it if you laid off the needlessly confrontational, accusatory tone about this. Its really not helpful. I explained why I don't think its a thing in the other DR. Plenty of random, benial facts are mentioned in Wikimedia articles. That doesn't make them "things" though, whatever that means. Do you have any evidence of these flags actually beinf IRL or refered to outside of the transphobic angle? If not then at least IMO these images clearly aren't worth keeping. Although their eductional usefulness would still be questionable regardless. But actual usage of the flags IRL would at least be better then your claim that they should be kept simply "because 4chan." --Adamant1 (talk) 11:01, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- File:Super Straight Flag.svg is in extensive use (and if you game the system by going to every single wiki it’s on and removing it you will be reported). You should actually check these things before indiscriminately nominating everything in a category. And I don’t get why you seem to think this is just some random thing that never received any media attention— it’s discussed on the w:/pol/ article of enwiki— I quote, “ Colors associated with ‘super straight’, often used in the form of flags, were black and orange.” (Emphasis mine) It’s also discussed extensively at w:Straight flag, where one of these files is in use. Dronebogus (talk) 10:46, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- The only in use file I saw was being used in a 2 old draft article that clearly isn't going to be put in mainspace anytime soon, if ever. So I don't think the usage is a valid reason to keep the image. As far as the where this orginated from, your correct that 4chan is notable. That obviously doesn't mean every single random thing that gets posted there is notable, eductional, or otherwise worth hosting on Commons though. Files don't get a free pass from Commons:Project scope just because someone might have posted them to 4chan once. --Adamant1 (talk) 10:37, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy keep. In use in at least 13 pages across all projects, including Catalan-, Persian-, Italian-, and English-language Wikipedias, besides of course Wikidata. RodRabelo7 (talk) 21:53, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Most of them being the mainspace, just noting. RodRabelo7 (talk) 21:54, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- I just looked and most of them aren't being used. One file File:Super Straight Flag.png is being used in a draft that's been there for 2 years and I'm pretty sure we delete images in that case since it doesn't have "realistic utility" at that point. Then there's a couple of random uses with other files in bot galleries, which again, doesn't meet the whole ""realistic utility" thing. That's all the usage I can find though. So can you point out which file is used in at least 13 pages across all projects since I'm not seeing it on my end for some reason? --Adamant1 (talk) 22:23, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep File:SuperStraightFlag.svg as a notable internet meme. Delete the rest as not useful--Trade (talk) 19:55, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep all, even if some of them aren't currently being used, there's no reason not to keep them for future use. JoePhin (talk) 02:54, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Before Adamant1 tries to argue that “most of them aren’t in use”, again, I’ll point out that since most of them are functionally identical to ones in use they’re kind of inherently in-scope. The only legitimate reasons to delete them are redundancy (which isn’t a particularly strong argument anyway) and being in undesirable formats for simple geometry like PNG/JPG over SVG (again also a weak argument). Dronebogus (talk) 11:33, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- I wasn't going to argue that, actually. Thanks for assuming though. Honestly, I don't expect anything even slightly related to sex or gender issues to be deleted, or at least for anyone to vote that way, but it what it is. I still think the images should be deleted regardless. Maybe at least leave the mind reading at the door next time though. --Adamant1 (talk) 12:18, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep some are identical and kinda useless, but others are not. MikutoH (talk) 00:52, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Low quality version of File:Couple standing in shallow water by Terasaki Kogyo.jpg Dronebogus (talk) 10:18, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Poor quality image that I should't have uploaded, heavily edited and messed around with it Joseph1891 (talk) 10:26, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Really bad quality image that I uploaded, For some reason when I uploaded it I photoshoped it heavily and changed some parts of the image to make it appear clearer and smoother but its just looks bad. Should be deleted. Joseph1891 (talk) 10:28, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Files in Category:Files by Wikivoyage user Luchs
[edit]No evidence of permission: all links to uploader and sourcefile are dead
- File:Agvatnet.jpg
- File:Buneset.jpg
- File:Burchardikirche.jpg
- File:Burg altena 02.jpg
- File:Die Stadt Dinant.jpg
- File:Dinant Gericht.jpg
- File:Dinant Rathaus.jpg
- File:Fontane-Geburtshaus.jpg
- File:Gletschertopf in der Nähe von Nesland auf den Lofoten.jpg
- File:Gustav Kühn Denkmal.jpg
- File:Halberstadt01.jpg
- File:Halberstadt02.jpg
- File:Halberstadt03.jpg
- File:Halberstadt04.jpg
- File:Hogskrova Aussicht.jpg
- File:Kirchplatz Neuruppin.jpg
- File:Klimadiagramm Bsp 01.jpg
- File:Stadt altena.jpg
- File:Stamsund 2009.jpg
- File:Stamsund Aussicht.jpg
- File:Å i Lofoten 2009.jpg
A.Savin 11:10, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep There is just as much evidence here as there is if you or anyone upload a file to Commons and write "own work". When Wikivoyage was introduced as a member of the Wikimedia community thousands of old files were transferred from the old website to Commons. It was transferred with a bot and it copied all the information from that website to Commons. Just like if it was copied from Wikipedia to Commons. --MGA73 (talk) 13:08, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Ping User:Multichill and User:Magog the Ogre. Magog helped clean up files from Wikivoyage after the transfer. Multichill untroduced me to the Pywikipedia bot that could move files to Commons. Both have transferred files to Commons with a bot. --MGA73 (talk) 13:15, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep absolutely no reason to doubt the orginal upload logs. Multichill (talk) 15:17, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep these images were on Wikivoyage which was its own project before merging into Wikimedia. The project was shut down after all images were transferred to Commons. MGA73 and I personally went and reviewed each of them. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 22:55, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Out of scope and unsourced: Maps used to promote revisionist history based on dubious sources. The land in the crudely redlined areas is not "gone" or "missing" (the maps even show it as land), it was just determined by historians (on whose research the original maps are based on) to have not been under direct rule of the Tang dynasty back in the day.
- File:There is a problem with this map, what about the land within the blue line?.png
- File:There is a problem with this map (land within the red line is missing).jpg
- File:Land is missing within the red line.png
- File:The red part of the land is gone.jpg
Enyavar (talk) 13:09, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Suspected CopyVio: Satellite images are generally implausible as "own work"; so this is at best a screenshot of an undisclosed free satellite image which needs to be named. Otherwise, CopyVio.
Enyavar (talk) 13:34, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Deleted: by Krd. --Min☠︎rax«¦talk¦» 03:29, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
I, as an uploader and had no experience at that time, found that this picture is not for uploading as my own work. I apologize for my mistake. I have found out a long time ago but not remember that I still have some pictures to get them removed. (เดืมทีสับสนระหว่างเนื้อหาเสรี และเนื้อหาไม่เสรี จึงอัปโหลดไฟล์ของผู้อื่นลง wikimedia commons ซึ่งส่วนมาก ผมจะอ้างอิงตลอด แต่ใช้วิกิมานานแล้วพบว่ามันไม่ได้ทำแบบนั้น แล้วเพิ่งนึกออกว่ายังมีไฟล์ที่ยังไม่ลบ) Pakorn Wongaroon (talk) 13:10, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
I, as an uploader and had no experience at that time, found that this picture is not for uploading as my own work. I apologize for my mistake. I have found out a long time ago but not remember that I still have some pictures to get them removed. (ไม่ใช่ผลงานตัวเอง เกิดความสับสนระหว่างเนื้อหาเสรีกับเนื้อหาไม่เสรี เมื่อตอนเข้าวิกิใหม่ ๆ) Pakorn Wongaroon (talk) 13:11, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Likely not own work, small crop of unknown source with transmission code in EXIF data. P 1 9 9 ✉ 16:04, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
File:Jan-Joosten-van Lodensteyn-and-William-Adams-with-Ship-Liefde-first-encounter-in-Kyushu-Japan-1600.png
[edit]This seems like a modern painting of historical event. Likely no in PD Jarekt (talk) 16:13, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Hmm, you're right. If it's modern art then it should be deleted. Update: I did research and the author is Nobuyuki Tamada and it was made in April 2000 so it should be deleted. -18:19, 10 May 2024 (UTC) Artanisen (talk) 18:19, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
No evidence this nontrivial logo is available under the claimed license - the license of the code of an extension does not necessarily apply to its logo * Pppery * it has begun... 16:32, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: I have no problem with anyone wanting to push this back on the MediaWiki wiki where it came from. —Uzume (talk) 16:57, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- That doesn't help if there's a licensing problem. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:13, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Screenshots of mw:Extension:FCKeditor (by Mafs) which has been abandoned for over a decade. Out of scope, and also derivative works of the drawing in the center, of which we have no idea of the license.
* Pppery * it has begun... 16:35, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: I have no problem with anyone wanting to push these back on the MediaWiki wiki where they came from. —Uzume (talk) 16:57, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- They should be nowhere IMO - they're out of both wikis' scope, in addition the licensing issue. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:12, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Derivative of 3 videos (the latter one is of 1970s), sources are missing, copyright status is unclear. Quick1984 (talk) 17:03, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Derivative of 3 videos (the latter one is of 1970s), sources are missing, copyright status is unclear. Quick1984 (talk) 17:05, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Derivative of the video of 1970s, source is missing, copyright status is unclear. Quick1984 (talk) 17:06, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Derivative of 3 videos (the latter one is of 1970s), sources are missing, copyright status is unclear. Quick1984 (talk) 17:21, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
As per description, Recorded in 2011 during a rehearsal with the ballet orchestra. Performers' copyright status is unclear. Quick1984 (talk) 17:24, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
As per description, Recorded in 2010 during a rehearsal with the ballet orchestra. Performers' copyright status is unclear. Quick1984 (talk) 17:25, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
The perfomer, Yevgeny Aleksandrovich Mravinsky, died in 1988. Quick1984 (talk) 17:26, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
The performer, Leonid Veniaminovich Yakobson, died in 1975. Quick1984 (talk) 17:28, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Uncertain why uploader would have rights to license. Author and copyright holder "Moritz Bernoully" per EXIF. Reverse image search shows multiple versions on line more than 2 years before Commons upload. Note: Currently in use, but we have multiple good alterative images of this building. Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 18:05, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
suspected CopyVio: satellite image claimed as own source Enyavar (talk) 18:06, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
This file was initially tagged by Alabasterstein as Copyvio (copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: no permission visible, see: https://jqadams.art/werke/marizza-liechtenstein-1923 Yann (talk) 18:20, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Complex logo, surpasses threshold of originality. The blue part is text-only, but the green leaf is complex. 66.65.58.236 18:20, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Trabajo propio? 186.174.69.38 18:54, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yes I own the rights to the work and took the photo. 82.7.63.119 20:20, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- It’s perfectly fine for it to be on Wikipedia and has been considered “in the public domain” for such purposes by me 82.7.63.119 20:21, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Unlikely to be own work. It's a derivative work of a photograph by an unknown author from a family archive. Well-Informed Optimist (talk) 18:55, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Logo no simple 186.174.69.38 18:58, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
This file was initially tagged by Figure19 as duplicate (duplicate) and the most recent rationale was: 040 Томск Императорский томский университет (cropped).jpg. Not an exact COM:DUPE, but requested by uploader. —Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 19:17, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Now I have doubts upon which image is primary, so I'm withdrawing my request. Keep --Figure19 (talk) 17:40, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
1910 French postcard, author appears to be "M. B, edit. a Vitry-le-Francois". Not an anonymous work, but too young for PD-old-assumed. Abzeronow (talk) 19:23, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment M.B. is likely to be the publisher (assuming that "édit." on the postcard is short for éditeur = publisher), so it could still be an anonymous work. Gestumblindi (talk) 18:36, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
Insufficient or doubtful author and license. It's a derivative work of a photograph by an unknown author from a family archive. Well-Informed Optimist (talk) 19:27, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Here on the website of the museum: https://mrkm.ru/novosti/k-90-letiyu-anatoliya-ivanovicha-berezina/?sphrase_id=8151. It says that all materials of the website are covered by
- Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International license. FlorianH76 (talk) 18:02, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
This file was initially tagged by Günther Frager as Copyvio (copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: The source link states: © Copyright 2022-2024 Εθνικό Τυπογραφείο - Δ/νση Ζ Πληροφορικής . All Rights Reserved. Converted to DR to allow discussions. Günther Frager (talk) 21:29, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Files found with Special:Search/Turkiskauppiaat
[edit]These Panoramio imports depict Turkiskauppiaat (authored by sculptor Ossi Somma[1] who died in 2020[2]) in a non-incidental or intentional manner (that is, the sculpture is the important element in these Panoramio images). As there is no commercial Freedom of Panorama in Finland for public art, these Panoramio imports infringe the late sculptor's posthumous copyright.
- File:"Turkiskauppiaat" illan suussa - panoramio.jpg
- File:Pirkkalaitorin "turkiskauppiaat"(Somma) - panoramio.jpg
- File:Turkiskauppiaat Ossi Somma's art - panoramio.jpg
- File:Turkiskauppiaat (Ossi Somma) joulua odotellessa...Christmas waiting - panoramio.jpg
JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 23:31, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
I feel like these standee photo-spots would violate c:COM:FOP US.
- File:Disney World 2008 100 3087 (2514467925).jpg
- File:Disney World 2008 100 3088 (2515294446).jpg
- File:Disney World 2008 100 3089 (2515295406).jpg
- File:Disney World 2008 100 3090 (2515296482).jpg
- File:Disney World 2008 100 3091 (2514471987).jpg
- File:Disney World 2008 100 3092 (2514472857).jpg
(Oinkers42) (talk) 23:31, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Files found with Special:Search/Harri Hedman Ossi
[edit]These Panoramio imports from a Panoramio photographer all depict various artistic works made by Ossi Somma (died 2020). The Panoramio photographer claims on his website that there was a permission from the sculptor (the images date to 2012); however, it is just a blanket statement that cannot be ascertained – if the permission is only confined to photography or if it extends to publication on Panoramio under commercial CC licensing. Finland has no commercial Freedom of Panorama for public art.
- File:Veistoksia, Ossi Somman, Taidepihalta, Vanha Penttilänkoulu 2 - panoramio.jpg
- File:Penttiläkoulun taidepihalta, (Ossi Somma) - panoramio.jpg
- File:Ossi Somma, Taidepialla ...art outdoors - panoramio.jpg
- File:Ossi Somman taidetta ,Pirkkalaistorilla, Nokialla - panoramio.jpg
- File:Veistoksia, Ossi Somman, Taidepihalta, Vanha Penttilänkoulu - panoramio.jpg
- File:Tie Ossi Somman, Taidepihalta, Vanha Penttilänkoulu - panoramio.jpg
- File:Tie Ossi Somman, Taidepihalle, Vanha Penttilänkoulu - panoramio.jpg
- File:Ossi Somma, Taidepihalla, Vanha Penttilänkoulu 4 - panoramio.jpg
- File:Ossi Somma, Taidepihalla, Vanha Penttilänkoulu ,art outdoors - panoramio.jpg
- File:Ossi Somma, Taidepihalla, Vanha Penttilänkoulu 2...Art outdoors - panoramio.jpg
- File:Sculpture Art, Pihamaalla (art outdoors) - panoramio.jpg
- File:Scrap cars outside in the garden - No, This is an art - panoramio.jpg