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Hi, Could someone please review the file (listed as a screenshot) and the report on the VRT listed in the source. Thanks. — billinghurst sDrewth 09:13, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Billinghurst: For me it shows, "This ticket does not exist, or you don't have permissions to access it in its current state". I guess the ticket is in a specific language queue. ─ Aafī (talk) 16:51, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Nsaa: ? Krd 16:57, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- The [https://ticket.wikimedia.org/otrs/index.pl?Action=AgentTicketZoom;TicketID=12798541 VRT ticket looks fine: "Med dette bekrefter jeg herved at jeg har alle rettigheter til de vedlagte bilde. Jeg lisensierer dem herved under lisensen «Creative Commons Attribution 3.0»." (Norwegian). B.r. Nsaa (talk) 21:46, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Nsaa: ? Krd 16:57, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. Ganímedes (talk) 21:33, 17 June 2024 (UTC) I miss the final processing here. --Subbass1 (talk) 14:13, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- ? --Subbass1 (talk) 13:19, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
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Comment Ticket in permissions-de queue. --Ganímedes (talk) 23:43, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
I want to know the whole conversation. In their site they use lower resolution, however anyone can find the high resolution version on [www-old.cev.eu]. So does the permission apply both? Elenktra (talk) 14:22, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Ticket in permissions-it queue. --Ganímedes (talk) 23:41, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
GeoJSON under OGL3.0
[edit]Hello team I have identified a couple of datasets (GeoJSON in particular) that are currently under a Open Government Licence 3.0. These are from NatureScot and Scottish Government (SIMD datazones). Am I (as an editor) permitted to bulk upload these GeoJSON files using OpenRefine? Or would I need to contact the copyright holders first? I am then hoping to connect the data to the relevant Wikidata items for each datazone. Many thanks in advance for the assistance and advice. Drkirstyross (talk) 11:19, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
I need confirmation from VRT for such a statement from the copyright owner
[edit]Before I send this text to the copyright owner, I would like the VRT to agree with this text (or modify it)ː
"I hereby affirm that I am (NAME) the sole owner of the exclusive copyright of the media works and my father’s sculpture works depicted in these media and uploaded by me to my <nowiki>https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey</nowiki> (need password) and have legal authority in my capacity to release the copyright of that works. I agree to give the rights to a volunteer editor Wavepainter to use and upload the above-mentioned content to Wikimedia Commons and publish it under the following free license: Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 Heirs International (CC-BY-SA 4.0 heirs International). I acknowledge that by doing so..."
Thank you, ~~~~ Wavepainter (talk) 22:19, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- The copyright owner use to be the photographer. The URL is the one of the file uploaded in Wikimedia Commons, not in external sites. --Ganímedes (talk) 22:36, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, but maybe I didn't explain it very well. The sculptor's son owns the copyright to both the photos and the sculptures depicted in them. We are not discussing or questioning that. He uploaded all these photos himself to his own https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey... He doesn't have time to upload all these files to Wiki Commons and he gives me the right to open his site (with password), take files from there and upload them to Wiki Commons with a licence CC-BY-SA 4.0 heirs International.
- How should he write this authorisation? ~~~~ Wavepainter (talk) 23:01, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- How many files are we talking about, to be uploaded i which time scale? Krd 04:18, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- I got the first meil from him, "Exhibition 2017. Part One." There will likely be more parts 2, 3, etc. The link in this meil leads to 182 photos. It is quite clear that you have to pick and choose significantly less. He doesn't want to do it himself and so he is happy to give me permission. Thank you. ~~~~ Wavepainter (talk) 07:35, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Wavepainter You might have him spell out that he is authorizing you to make a selection of what should be uploaded.
- @VRT: It seems to me that this should be straightforward. As far as I can see, it's just like an institution letting someone upload on their behalf. But of course its up to the VRT, not me as a admin, to say so. - Jmabel ! talk 17:45, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- Absolutely correct. And that's exactly where I started: I proposed for discussion the text of a letter that I would send to him and he would send to VRT on his behalf. That is, someone (from VRT?) should say that the copyright owner should send exactly this text. That is, I ask to approve\modify the text in advance.
- "I hereby affirm that I am (NAME) the sole owner of the exclusive copyright of the media works and my father’s sculpture works depicted in these media and uploaded by me to my https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey... (need password) and have legal authority in my capacity to release the copyright of that works. I agree to give the rights to a volunteer editor Wavepainter to use and upload the above-mentioned content to Wikimedia Commons and publish it under the following free license: Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 Heirs International (CC-BY-SA 4.0 heirs International). I acknowledge that by doing so..."
- ~~~~ Wavepainter (talk) 18:09, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- There is no such general letter. At best please upload the files and let the copyright holder contact VRT afterwards to provide permission. Krd 18:29, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Krd: really? Then how do we let anyone upload on behalf of an institution that owns copyrights? - Jmabel ! talk 21:39, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- There are always several possibilities, but we are not talking about anybody here, but about the case requested, and I think, based of 13 years experience, I have outlined the variant that fits best for all sides. Why not give it a try? Krd 06:46, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- How could we verify files that are not uploaded in Wikimedia Commons but in a site with a pass we don't have? That's what I don't get it. --Ganímedes (talk) 09:15, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Wavepainter: that is exactly why I think what needs to happen here is for the heir (the son) to designate Wavepainter as operating on his behalf. If the heir/son were to be uploading the images themselves, presumably all you'd need to do is verify their identity, exactly what is needed here. If they then say someone is acting on their behalf, what more could be needed? - Jmabel ! talk 05:16, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- Chances are high that whatever will be recommended here, the VRT cannot accept it because relevant aspects have not been considered. This is not a what-if game. This is also not about what one needs to say. Commons needs permission from the copyright holder. You are free to choose your way to establish that. The easiest way for everybody involved is to let the copyright holder contact the VRT. If you don't trust the VRT, why involve them at all? Krd 07:05, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Krd: Everyone here understands that the copyright holder needs to contact VRT to grant the permission. My question is why they cannot do that by designating an account as acting on their behalf with their permission. That's not a matter of "trusting VRT": it is a matter of trying to understand policy.
- Do I understand that your are saying that the way you think this should be done is for Wavepainter to do these uploads, either all at once or in batches, mark them with {{PP}}, and have the son/heir send email after that to COM:VRT confirming a grant of the license in question? (If that's the case then, Wavepainter, make sure in advance that you know you are using a license that is acceptable to them.) - Jmabel ! talk 18:21, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, for me is absolutely fine if I upload my chosen images and mark them with {{PP}}, after that the copyright owner (son/heir) sends email to COM:VRT confirming a grant of the license in question (CC-BY-SA 4.0 heirs International). Is there any general letter to COM:VRT or in this case the text I suggested (see above) is also okay? Wavepainter (talk) 21:11, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- Asked and answered. The text to be used is the standard text. If anything different arises when seeing the images or knowing the situation, this will negotiated with the permission sender. Krd 15:31, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, for me is absolutely fine if I upload my chosen images and mark them with {{PP}}, after that the copyright owner (son/heir) sends email to COM:VRT confirming a grant of the license in question (CC-BY-SA 4.0 heirs International). Is there any general letter to COM:VRT or in this case the text I suggested (see above) is also okay? Wavepainter (talk) 21:11, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- Chances are high that whatever will be recommended here, the VRT cannot accept it because relevant aspects have not been considered. This is not a what-if game. This is also not about what one needs to say. Commons needs permission from the copyright holder. You are free to choose your way to establish that. The easiest way for everybody involved is to let the copyright holder contact the VRT. If you don't trust the VRT, why involve them at all? Krd 07:05, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Wavepainter: that is exactly why I think what needs to happen here is for the heir (the son) to designate Wavepainter as operating on his behalf. If the heir/son were to be uploading the images themselves, presumably all you'd need to do is verify their identity, exactly what is needed here. If they then say someone is acting on their behalf, what more could be needed? - Jmabel ! talk 05:16, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- How could we verify files that are not uploaded in Wikimedia Commons but in a site with a pass we don't have? That's what I don't get it. --Ganímedes (talk) 09:15, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- There are always several possibilities, but we are not talking about anybody here, but about the case requested, and I think, based of 13 years experience, I have outlined the variant that fits best for all sides. Why not give it a try? Krd 06:46, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- I got the first meil from him, "Exhibition 2017. Part One." There will likely be more parts 2, 3, etc. The link in this meil leads to 182 photos. It is quite clear that you have to pick and choose significantly less. He doesn't want to do it himself and so he is happy to give me permission. Thank you. ~~~~ Wavepainter (talk) 07:35, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- How many files are we talking about, to be uploaded i which time scale? Krd 04:18, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. --Krd 15:31, 22 June 2024 (UTC) 19 files were deleleted without any reason, if course there was a permission mail (german). And there was a "nonsense" request (sorry to say so), which was answered (without further reply, iirc). Please undelete as soon as possible. --Subbass1 (talk) 20:45, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Subbass1: There is always a reason. Did you follow the emailed instructions? — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 00:49, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, *I see* no reason. Perhaps some german should jump in here for clearing. (Strange that my files are processed nearly always by the same person (krd)). PS There also were files which weren't affected by the (answered, nonsense, imho) request. I really see it as a bad style then to delete them altogether, sorry. --Subbass1 (talk) 05:48, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Krd is an admin. He starts almost all tickets in several languages. He's *by far* one of the most active VRT agents, if not the most. So, it's not strange that he processes nearly always your files ... I've checked with the help of Google and I'm not sure to understand the problem. I saw Krd made some questions and request to do something but I'm not sure to fully understand the problem. Can you please clarify a little bit (here or in the ticket, but in English so I can try to follow, please). --Ganímedes (talk) 15:54, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, but no, sorry, I'm not willing to argue the whole story in english. I'll wait for help by german admins. PS If you look up here, you'll see me asking for the very same ticket days/weeks before. At that time the files were online yet. No (helpful) answer there... --Subbass1 (talk) 19:17, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, *I see* no reason. Perhaps some german should jump in here for clearing. (Strange that my files are processed nearly always by the same person (krd)). PS There also were files which weren't affected by the (answered, nonsense, imho) request. I really see it as a bad style then to delete them altogether, sorry. --Subbass1 (talk) 05:48, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
A few days ago (26 may 2024), I uploaded two images to Commons, they were File:Wolfen-lofi-01.jpg and File:Wolfen-wolfen-lofi-02.jpg (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jeanne_Angerie). Unfortunately, both files were deleted because this media lacked authorization information.
The problem is that the designer had told me by email that she agreed with sharing the files and that she had written by giving the information. I have on the advice of my mentor @HenriDavel (https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:HenriDavel#Question_de_Jeanne_Angerie_(7_juin_2024_%C3%A0_19:59)) and tried to contact the Jyp user (https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Jyp#Commons)But I didn’t get any answers. Idon't know if my question can be accept in this page.
What can I do to have the files restored, please? Jeanne Angerie (talk) 08:12, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Please provide the ticket number the permission sender got, or please ask them to send the permisison again per COM:VRT. Krd 09:38, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. --Krd 09:38, 23 June 2024 (UTC) general question: general permission
[edit]Where can I send some sort of "general permission" (preferred as private mail)?From time to time I upload fotos from another (non-wiki) user and it would be much easier this way. I already do that this way for those pictures: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Photos_by_Wolfgang_Reich
Is a text (german) "Ich bestätige, dass User subbass1 bis auf Weiteres alle Bilder von mir unter der Lizenz CC BY SA 4 veröffentlichen darf. (Name/Unterschrift)" sufficient? Thanks, --Subbass1 (talk) 19:11, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
Hi, I'm pretty new to this. The YouTuber in question told me that he sent the email. Can someone update me on the issue? Hollowjp (talk) 01:41, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- Ticket received 4 hours ago. Krd 04:30, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. --Krd 04:30, 24 June 2024 (UTC)