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God is busy, may I help you? / Dieu est occupé, puis-je vous aider?

You can leave me a message in English or French, at the bottom. Click here. Yann 22:13, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Need to understand resoning behind deletion

Hello Yann,

The following image was deleted File:CES Ecuador.gif which is the logo of an Ecuadorian Government organization. Isn't there a contingency for Government Organizations, and for using logos when explaining a subject and there is no other option for the logo? — Preceding unsigned comment added by HarveyPrototype (talk • contribs) 22:45, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@HarveyPrototype: Hi,
You uploaded it under a fair use rationale, which is not allowed on Commons. I don't see anything in Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Ecuador which would indicate that it is OK for Commons. Yann (talk) 07:38, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the clarification HarveyPrototype (talk) 17:43, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Yan,
File:CES CACES Logos.jpg I drove to the building a took a picture from my car. I've edited the picture to have the logo. Can I replace the image with the picture taken from my car? HarveyPrototype (talk) 01:46, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Does this new image fall under FOP? HarveyPrototype (talk) 17:52, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@HarveyPrototype: I am not sure. Please ask on COM:VPC. Yann (talk) 18:27, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, I've posted the question on village pump HarveyPrototype (talk) 19:35, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Yann,
Aparently the logos outside of the building do fall under FOP, so may I be allowed to edit the original file? File:CES Ecuador.gif HarveyPrototype (talk) 02:53, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Yann,
You've got me researching so it appears that the copyright rules in Ecuador have been changed since 2018, What would be the process to change Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Ecuador? According to this news report [1] "Se habilita la disposición de obras a través de Internet con fines de investigación y educación, sin fines comerciales."which translate to "The provision of works over the Internet is enabled for research and educational purposes, without commercial purposes."
I will read through the law[2] to find the corresponding article HarveyPrototype (talk) 20:16, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@HarveyPrototype I am sure Yann will also suggest to you that a question about this, with links to the relevant law, are best asked on COM:VPC as well. Things change by community consensus, not by the act of a single editor. While many of us are able to implement the policies nt everyone is able to consider changing them. 🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦 06:24, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thankyou the question is currently under discussion under the title "Two Questions Regarding Freedom of Panorama" HarveyPrototype (talk) 03:53, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The same thing happened with the Amway Center logo SVG file. Abhiramakella (talk) 17:31, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Todd Bolender in The Concert (1960).jpg

Hello Yann, je ne partage pas ton analyse. Selon moi, une planche contact annotée n'est pas nécessairement et automatiquement une publication au sens légal américain. Je pense que dans de tels cas il serait préférable de laisser le temps à un consensus communautaire de se dégager. Cordialement, — Racconish 💬 21:20, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Racconish: Bonjour,
C'est comme cela qu'est interprété le copyright aux Etats-Unis sur Commons. Il y a des milliers de photos avec cette justification. Cela pourrait être contesté pour des photos de famille, mais pour des photos d'événements comme ici.
Hi, This is how US copyright is interpreted on Commons. This could be contested for "family" pictures, but not for pictures of such events. Pictures are published when the picture leaves the photographer's custody. @Clindberg: who has, it seems to me, confirmed this. Yann (talk) 12:20, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not likely that was kept private. The definition of publication in the U.S. before 1978 was tortured, but the most common definition of "limited publication" were copies distributed to limited people, for a limited purpose, and with no right of further distribution. If any of those three tests failed, it was "general publication" and lost copyright if there was no notice. So even giving a print to a friend with no understood limitations could be publication. Copies did have to be actually distributed -- if something was technically published without any distribution, it may not actually lose copyright, as the law does mention distribution in the clause where copyright is lost. In this case, it seems like a publicity photo, so no real limited purpose. The back says it was a gift to the NYPL by someone who died in 1971, and that was likely the second distribution, so no real doubt this copy was floating around without a notice before 1978. Carl Lindberg (talk) 13:13, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yann and Carl Lindberg, thanks for commenting. I agree with Carl we have to consider whether this is assimilable to a general publication or to a limited publication, with respect to the fact a distribution to a limited number of people for a limited purposeis not a general publication, even if the limitations are implied and not expressed (Burke v. National Broadcasting Co., Inc. [3]). The fact it is a scan of a contact sheet with a handwritten inscription seems to me to indicate it is likely a case of limited distribution, in a context of professional discussion, possibly but not certainly prior to the future publication of a cropped version. The situation is comparable to that of a composer giving or lending copies of his composition to interprets or to firms to sollicit their interest in the works's production (Allen v. Walt Disney Productions [4]), or that of authors of a play distributing copies of their work to potential backers and production personnel in an attempt to obtain its production (Burnett v. Lambino [5]). With no other evidence, assimilating the distribution of this contact print to a general publication is IMO quite a stretch. — Racconish 💬 09:52, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Giving it to the NYPL would not be limited publication. And the ability to do so would indicate that the distribution to Hayward in the first place may not have been for a limited purpose either. I don't see the comparison, especially giving it to a library. Carl Lindberg (talk) 12:24, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Carl Lindberg, indeed yes if it would have been given by the photographer himself, which is probably not the case here. Assuming Hayward, whose relationship with the photographer is unknown, was explicitly or implicitly entitled by the photographer to make such a gift is IMO a very hypothetical intellectual construction. — Racconish 💬 12:56, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It was taken in 1960, and given as a gift to the library before 1971, which would seem to indicate that Hayward thought he had the ability to do so (i.e. it was not really a limited distribution in the first place). Not definite for sure, but I don't think it's very hypothetical either. You are also making assumptions about the nature of Hayward having it in the first place -- while that is possible, it may have just as easily simply been a gift as well, which would probably be general publication then. Carl Lindberg (talk) 13:12, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yann and Carl Lindberg, first I am not convinced we can take for granted a gift date before 1971, since most of the Hayward archives in possession of the NYPL were gifted by his wife after his death [6], particularly those relating to ballet [7]. This was a bulk gift of a large quantity of documents with no consideration for existing distribution restrictions. In any case, Hayward's professional involvment suggests a context similar to the Burnett v. Lambino case referred to above [8]. My points are (1) a context of general publication cannot be inferred from the sole absence of a copyright mention on the verso and (2) by application of the principle of precaution we cannot rule out a limited distribution, particularly for a working document such as a contact print and when the person to whom it has been distributed was a producer as was Leland Hayward. — Racconish 💬 14:37, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yann and Carl Lindberg, thanks for the opportunity to have a more thorough discussion. Would you agree it would be appropriate to renominate the file for deletion based on the fact we cannot rule out a limited distribution? — Racconish 💬 09:31, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Racconish: I think Carl made it clear that there is very little chance, i.e. much below the reasonable doubt, that the file was not published at the time, and that it is in the public domain. Yann (talk) 11:26, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yann, I think the fact Hayward was a producer was not factored. This is why I am still waiting for an answer to my previous comment. — Racconish 💬 11:31, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you are correct, what right did the NYPL have to publish them? Carl Lindberg (talk) 13:16, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yann and Carl Lindberg, their disclaimer is compatible with the library exception of Section 108 [9]. — Racconish 💬 13:55, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Emanuel Zamrazil, ak. malíř.jpg

co se vám nelíbí, foto je volné dílo a autor je neznámí Martin wolf (talk) 09:56, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Amway Center logo SVG file falsely deleted.

The Amway Center logo SVG file was falsely deleted. The logo is in the public domain. I even included the public domain copyright tag. Abhiramakella (talk) 17:29, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Abhiramakella: Hi, I don't see any reason why it would be in the public domain. Yann (talk) 18:09, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kate Edwards.jpg

I speedy'd File:Kate Edwards.jpg two days ago as a copyvio, but Kingofthedead raised that I was wrong. The uploader (Ksoglin on enwiki) appears to be the actual copyright holder. This was an oversight on my part, and I was wondering if you'd be willing to undelete it. Thanks! SWinxy (talk) 01:32, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I created a DR instead: Commons:Deletion requests/File:Kate Edwards.jpg. Yann (talk) 08:12, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My file should not have been deleted

I uploaded the file File:Sol Levante title card.png yesterday, which has now been speedy deleted by you. The license template I used, {{Netflix Open Content}}, links directly to https://opencontent.netflix.com/, which shows that the short film Sol Levante is licensed under CC BY 4.0. I’ve listed it at COM:UNDEL, so ultimately no harm, no foul, but in the future please look a bit closer at file pages before speedy deleting them without discussion. — gabldotink [ talk | contribs | global account ] 16:32, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gabldotink: Undeleted. It was speedy nominated by Belbury. Yann (talk) 19:22, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

says puppeteer, though not blocked

Hi. On User:DylanTastic you say that the user is a puppeteer, and on an DR that they started you state that they are blocked. I don't see a block, so are you able to explain where we actually are situated with the user? I have just deleted nominated trash that they uploaded. Thanks.  — billinghurst sDrewth 00:38, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Billinghurst: Hi,
I blocked the socks, and deleted their uploads, but not the main account, and I didn't delete files from the main account. I don't mind if you block the main account as well. Yann (talk) 09:56, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I misinterpreted what you said then. <thumbsup>  — billinghurst sDrewth 11:34, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Insane Ashraf.jpg

Why are you repeatedly requesting to delete the image when this image has the permission of VRTS. warning: we can take serious action against you Fizzza (talk) 11:34, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Fizzza: DO NOT THREATEN ME, or you will be blocked. The issue is not copyright, but scope. Wikimedia is not a social media, a place to promote non notable people. Yann (talk) 12:39, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some doubts

Hello!

I thank you for helping me block Dcmpr and all his puppet accounts.

I'm writing to you because I have a suspicion that DylanTastic and Franklin482 could be the same person. Since I'm not entirely sure, I preferred to write to you here instead of the noticeboard because I would like you to help me investigate this.

My reason for saying that is because in 2019 I had problems with Franklin482 on English Wikipedia for the same reasons I reported Dcmpr on Commons. In fact, in WP he was blocked for having Harrison Canyon as a puppet account, which was where he was spent making changes to the highway shields of Puerto Rico. That is, in Commons he used the Franklin482 account to create shields and in WP he used the Harrison Canyon account to edit articles.

The behavior between Franklin482 and the accounts related to DylanTastic have similarities that remind me of that negative moment. I wouldn't want that to happen again and that's why I had to be brave and report it. For that reason I decided to write to you. I would like you to help me solve my doubt.

Thank you so much. Yarfpr (talk) 03:54, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Yarfpr: In this case, please create a request for check user. Thanks, Yann (talk) 08:27, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Sophie-gourion-portrait.jpg

Salut Yann,

merci pour restaurer cette image. Maintenant que je le vois, j'ai des doutes quant à sa validation. J'ai donc écrit à la cliente pour lui demander une preuve. Je suis désolée, cela arrive parfois lorsque je ne peux pas voir l'image. Pour le moment, je pense que l'image peut rester telle quelle.

Amitiés d'Allemagne Mussklprozz (talk) 08:44, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the FP nomination

Thank you, Yann. I just noticed that you nominated one of my photos.


That's very kind of you.

Apologies, but I speak French like a Spanish cow, so I am writing in English.


Best regards,


Paul Pdanese (talk) 20:55, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Captain America, Chapter 1.ogv

File:Captain America, Chapter 1.ogv has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

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FPC

A good one… ★ 12:11, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2… ★ 19:49, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I already had this last one in my list, but it needs some work before nomination. Yann (talk) 11:29, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Hello @Yann! Could you please take a look at this non-free map? I've seen that you quickly deleted a similar looking map so I thought that might interest you. Best regards, WikiEditor1234567123 (talk) 19:01, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Search/category tool

Hi Yann, hope you can help. Is there a way to search files and get results that show the categories that are on the image? I'm going through a "needs categories" category, and half of them seem to be fine, just never had the particular "needs attention" category removed. I'm looking for a quicker way than clicking into each file to determine if it needs work (other than taking of the "needs categories" label). Let me know or if you can point me in the right direction, that'd be great. Thanks in advance! -- Deadstar (msg) 11:22, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Personal files?

Hi Yann. Do you think File:Snipertron12 Logo (20 May 2024).png and File:OOPS! Card.png meet COM:PERSONAL? -- Marchjuly (talk) 20:40, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Zéro de conduite (1933) par Jean Vigo.webm

File:Zéro de conduite (1933) par Jean Vigo.webm has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!
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